Hi folks,

I’ve had a look at the awards from Season 18 as previously posted by Steve T.
Using the prices quoted from the rules, they amounted to 1100k.

The awards from Season 19 amount to 2100 per division. This might seem excessive to some managers, so we’ll do a spot of arithmetic first, just to check.

I’ve looking at the total income for the season from match revenue, press and awards. It turns out that the awards only amount to just under 4% of revenue for the season, and that’s when compared to the poorest Division (3).
It’s a substantially lower percentage when compared to Div 1.
The press awards for the season are all over double that amount and I’m using figures from before the play-off matches.
There will be managers who will have received participation since then.
Given that I’d probably get lynched for suggesting lowering the amount managers receive from their press awards and that they’re twice as much, I’m going to use a similar rule of thumb and leave End of Season awards value the same as well (2100k).

At the Commissioners suggestion I’ve put together a list of awards for the season ahead.
They are designed so that it will be more difficult for a given manager to waltz off with the lot of them.
There may have to be manual (Commish) intervention on some of these depending on the coding (if any) required to implement them.


Team Awards
Manager of the season as voted 2TP (200k)
Fair Play Award 150k
Foul Play Award 150k

Player Awards
Golden Boot 250k
Silver Boot 200k
Bronze Boot 150k
Rookie Hotshot Age 0/1 100k
Golden Oldie Hotshot (5+) 100k

MOM 200k
Golden Gloves 250k
Silver Gloves 200k
Bronze Gloves 150k

A couple of minor points. The Gold, Silver and Bronze awards are all mutually exclusive.
It’d take some talent and a fair bit of cheating to win both the Fair play and the Foul play awards too. Good luck with that.
This should mean the most you can win is 1050k, and that would require that some short sighted managers vote you the extra 200k from Manager of the season award.
The normal maximum, if you like, is 850k. Not to be sneezed at, but nothing like the splendid amount DEV won.
This should prevent the slight problem we had this season.
Although, let’s face it, that’s precisely what the ‘Robin Hood’ rule is for.

There has been some feedback already on the blog.

With so many awards for both defense and offense in the form of Gold, Silver and Bronze, it is extremely likely that if I’d included both a best offense and a best defense award some manager would have stood a greater chance of getting multiple awards.
This is something we’re trying to avoid this time.

Manager of the season has been the same value for the last two seasons and is one of the better awards as regards value, so I see no reason to change it.

The team sheets under stats already include the individual discipline of all your players anyway. It may not be on the stats page we have access to, but I imagine it’ll be in the main database. It would simply need to be totaled to find out who’s been naughty and who’s been nice. This would make it easy to calculate Foul and Fair play.

You’ll have noticed I’ve slightly altered the Rookie and Pensioner ages, to better reflect the sorts of teams we appear to be putting together these days.

There is certainly the option to replace the cash values with resource values where Mark thinks necessary, however I don't think OTF should be used in this fashion as it's terribly difficult to sell.

These are not carved in stone and I’m sure Mark will be having a good look at these before changing anything.

good work my friend

but REWARDING foul play with 150k ?


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I agree with dropping Best Offence and Defence. One or both likely to go to a team that is top or near to top of the division and they will have lots of gate money anyway.

As for the boot awards, a team that has a single striker is more likely to get it than one with a pair of good strikers, but I'd say the latter is more likely to win a title.

Glove awards tend to go to teams with poorer defences - I just got lucky.

I'd still keep Rookie at age 0 - otherwise age 1's will run away with it. Agree that pensioner should be age 5+

MOM nearly always goes to FW or GK so it might be worth dropping this as well, maybe increase Rookie and Pensioner to 200k each if you want to keep the total the same. One problem with MOM is that it is the total for league and cups, but the boot and glove awards are separated.

Well, there was talk of having a silly award Jackie, and I think that covers it!!

Remember, unless a manager actually deliberately goes for this award, it just comes down to what the Olmec head says over the course of a season.
Let's face it. If we all played the entire season normal, then winning either the Fair or Foul trophy would be completely random. And sometimes that's a good thing.
I've seen games with a loose referee and a team playing less aggressive with a home referee and they still ended up with a higher number of yellows than the opposition.

You could choose to try and go for either of these two by playing more passive or more aggressive, but those two tactics have definite down sides and the award of cards is random.
For 150k, it doesn't seem like it's really worth it. If Mark doesn't put the current stats for discipline on the stats page and managers have to add it up for themselves, I think you'll find this particular set of awards is fairly random.

There is still plenty of time to make these awards 175k for Nice and 125k for Nasty. That could be the way forwards too.

Steve, I agree that age 1's will probably run away with the rookie prize, but there's not many teams out there who don't have any age 1's in their side, so it is a competition that'll be open to all teams regardless.

Manager of the season as voted 2TP (200k) .................Fine with me
Fair Play Award 150k ............ Too high 100k
Foul Play Award 150k ...........Don't like this at all

Player Awards
Golden Boot 250k..................I'd be happier with 300k
Silver Boot 200k .................I'd be happier with 150k
Bronze Boot 150k .............I'd be happier with 100k
Rookie Hotshot Age 0/1 100k .....A rookie is an age 0 not 0/1
Golden Oldie Hotshot (5+) 100k .... fine with me

MOM 200k ..............Dont see the point in this we get MOM rewards already
Golden Gloves 250k...................I'd be happier with 300k
Silver Gloves 200k.................I'd be happier with 150k
Bronze Gloves 150k .............I'd be happier with 100k

Thats how I see it!

Most MOM has been in for the last two seasons at least. No real need to change it.
What reward are we already getting for this, apart from the end of season award?

I'm guessing Dave is thinking of the MVP, which sounds like it's Most Valuable Player. I have no idea what MVP really stands for because it's based on results.

Ahh, I think it's actually in the rules. The ones he allegedley edited :-)

Most Valiant Performance.

Great work from HAM manager here, but I agree totally with the slight amendments made by MOTMAN (!). If we did have a 'silly' award for foul play then a token amount would be sensible (25k), but I'm not keen on it. Also agree the MOM can be dropped, as Steve says it usually goes to a GK or FW so chance is a MOM winner would be in with a chance of a boot or gloves award anyway.

Dan.

Here’s my take on the End of Season Awards.

These are the current awards:
Award Prize
Most Man of the Match Awards (MOM) 300 k
Golden Boot (League Goals) 500 k
Best Offensive Team (Most League goals) 300 k
Best Defensive Team (Least League goals against) 250 k
Golden Gloves (Highest Rated GK) 250 k
Rookie Hot Shot (most League goals by an age 0) 200 k
Pensioner Hot Shot (most League goals by age 6+) 100 k
Manager of Season (per division) – voted via forum 2TP

Right here goes, using David’s idea of keeping the total cash payable the same, just spent better and after reading everyone else thoughts….

MOM award, I think has to stay. Olmec picks a MOM for each game, OK it doesn’t differentiate between league and cups, but as it is a feature of the end of game report we should still use it too reward the player who picks up the most of them. Token award of 150k

I like the idea of Gold, Silver and Bronze awards for the Golden Boot. Maybe we could do away with the Best Offensive Team and use the money to here.
Gold 300k
Silver 200k
Bronze 150k

Gold, Silver and Bronze awards for Golden Gloves are also a good idea as it means the money is filtering to other teams not just the winner. Best Defensive Team money could also be used here.
Gold 300k
Silver 200k
Bronze 150k

The Rookie and Pensioner Awards are new from Season 19 and at the moment are token awards to generate some interest and as such should be lower in payment, say 150k a piece. The Rookie Award should be for rookies only, ie age 0 players. The Pensioners Award should maybe be more of a Veteran’s Award and include age 5 and 6 players.

Manager of the Season is a voted on by SESL mangers and is a chance for us bosses to vote for who we think deserves that title, prize enough???? As this award can be won for any number of reasons and the award has been the same for ages, I don’t see any reason for change.

Dave’s new idea for a Fair Play Award is also a good one I think, but I don’t like the idea of a Foul Play Award. Awards are given on merit, where’s the merit in foul play? I reckon 100k for Fair Play is fine as this is an award nobody is going to go out of their way to win, but it rewards the fairest team at the end of the season.

As for a jokie award, I think someone else has mentioned it, how about giving the worst shooter an award. Not a lot, 50k say, something to make note of who was the worst at trying to score goals, after all that’s the point of the game isn’t it?

Here endith my tuppence worth……

I agree with Celtic post above.

Maybe make Bronze awards 100k rather than 150k,

worst shooter award for fun makes sense too.

I agree with the Celtic (and whoever is pulling the strings at SM these days) man's take on this.

Seems sensible to me.

Wasn't moi - but I do tend to agree

I prefer the Celtic grouping, as it drops the Foul Play award and gives a bigger gap between Gold, Silver and Bronze awards for the boots and gloves.

The award I would suggest is a league wide award for gloves, boot and manager.
It would be a little extra and would go to a team already getting an award but it would be fairer to take into account cup games as well as league games when you compare across the league.

The grouping that Bill (Celtic) came up with suffers from the problem we're trying to avoid.
It's meant to be more difficult to win a large amount of resources at end of season.
His version gives a normal max of 1200k.
1400k if some 'geniuses' decide to vote you in as manager of the season too.

That's 2/3. We were trying to go the other way.