I am writing this because I feel that the current system can have an update.

Now the commish can reverse a trade if it is too one sided or when it is reviewed at this forum when an appeal is made.

Why not create a rule that newbie manager cannot trade for the first three sessions in charge. These sessions are learning sessions. The new manager can review all trades done by experienced managers and can look at the values of players ,TP and CP. After these three sessions he or she can start trading.

good point, well made

The existing rule is fine and it works.

I have no problem with an embargo system on top of that - but I still think it is OK for us to have a trade committee.

Without a trade committee of sorts it would be all too easy for me to set up another team via a doppelganger address. I own somewhere in the region of 8 email addresses currently - and could probably set up hundreds more if i wished. I could then join the league as fake_player@gmail.com or similar and then start trading with myself at the CB team to give myself a number of great deals once the trade embargo was lifted.

This would not be a good position for the rest of the league.

Even with a trade committee this would be possible to set up but it would take slightly longer to acheive as you would have to do it with deals that slip under the radar by being less one-sided.

GMcD.

Disagree. I think if you take away the facility of trading you're taking away a fun part of the game. As a newbie you're eager to get into the game and trading to get the players you want in the team shouldn't be restricted - its a good way of getting interaction with fellow managers - just leave it as it is. If a newbie gets taken to the cleaners the existing rules can remedy it!

I agree with Les. This would make things really difficult for managers joining during the off season. I suspect most of the trading takes place during the period before the matches start or at the very least within the 1st couple of sessions. New managers would lose out on most of the decent players available and be at a serious disadvantage.

I agree with Les and Mark. Speculation over a trade that is slightly out of balance is clearly a waste of time and not worth debating, after all it happens in the real World. However an outrageously unbalanced trade which may be deemed as too beneficiary to one team could be dealt with by the current measures provided.

Too true as the following piece from a newspaper article shows relating to the transfer of Robbie Winters from United to Aberdeen.

Winters’ early days in Aberdeen were a struggle compounded by the nature of his transfer from Dundee United in 1998, a deal in which Billy Dodds moved in the opposite direction with some £700,000 as a makeweight; for a long while, the view was that Aberdeen had contrived to con themselves.

Dodds then scored 25 goals in 44 games for United before being transferred for £1.3 million to Rangers. Winters played 4 seasons at Aberdeen scoring 40 odd in total and then left for nothing. Just goes to show even the pros can muck it up sometimes.

Might seem too restrictive not to be able to trade for first 3 sessions, as sometimes a newbie may take on a roster squad that is a mess and needs to trade out of trouble, fast.

I think trade committee can deal with unfair trades, and if it becomes a bigger issue, then a rule change can come in to force then, but Marc at PT means well with his initial suggestion.

Trade IDEA?

With no agents taking a cut of transfer deals in SESL, why not implement a small fee payable for every trade completed?

This may force some managers to think twice about trading when there is no real point or benefit to their team. Some managers trade to get a 'buzz' from it, they have told me this.

This 'agents fee/ trade fee' could be tallied up over a season and shared out to league and/or cup winners perhaps.

OR if do not want to reward the BIG teams, how about give all the "trade fees" to a random team from bottom half of Div 3? Just a suggestion!

Is this an addition to the robin hood rule?

With a few newbies coming in for season 20, then this is a good forum thread by PT Marc.

If each newbie has a 'mentor' looking after him for first few sessions, then any trade can be discussed with this exisiting manager helping him out for the first few weeks.

I think the feeling in SESL nowadays is any one sided trades will be picked up upon by Commish and/or Trade Committee, and bar the quitting/sacking of the GRE manager mid-season 19, the current managers 'know the score' on trading guidelines, and 'spirit of the game' rules.

I am a fan of the mentor system and will volunteer for this if the commish wants to push it through.